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Victor J. Osborne, Jr.
October 13th 04, 06:56 PM
What do you do out there - buy or rent? I have need for 6 life vests for a
flight to Cancun at the end of October. Should I rent or buy?

TIA, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.


Peter MacPherson
October 13th 04, 08:24 PM
I live in eastern Massachusetts and fly to Nantucket a lot.
I bought three life vests as a "just in case". Since I fly a
single engine I tend to keep within gliding distance, but
I like knowing the life vests are there just in case.

If this is a one shot deal flying over water and you don't see
doing it often, I would say rent.

Pete


"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." > wrote in message
...
> What do you do out there - buy or rent? I have need for 6 life vests for
> a flight to Cancun at the end of October. Should I rent or buy?
>
> TIA, {|;-)
>
> Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
>
>
>

Bob Chilcoat
October 14th 04, 05:11 PM
There's one under the seat on most airliners. A few flights and you have
your six :-)

--
Bob (Chief Pilot, White Knuckle Airways)

I don't have to like Bush and Cheney (Or Kerry, for that matter) to love
America

"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." > wrote in message
...
> What do you do out there - buy or rent? I have need for 6 life vests for
a
> flight to Cancun at the end of October. Should I rent or buy?
>
> TIA, {|;-)
>
> Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
>
>
>
>

tony roberts
October 16th 04, 04:59 AM
I bought from Aircraft Spruce.
They sell repackaged and recertified vests for about $45.00 instead of
the usual $250.00.

Tony


Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE




In article >,
"Victor J. Osborne, Jr." > wrote:

> What do you do out there - buy or rent? I have need for 6 life vests for a
> flight to Cancun at the end of October. Should I rent or buy?
>
> TIA, {|;-)
>
> Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
>
>




--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Paul Sengupta
October 17th 04, 12:04 AM
"tony roberts" > wrote in message
news:nospam-3A0F13.21032115102004@shawnews...
> I bought from Aircraft Spruce.
> They sell repackaged and recertified vests for about $45.00 instead of
> the usual $250.00.

$250? Here in the UK you can get them for £24.67 + VAT new.
(£28.99 if you're buying from within the EU)

http://www.yachtinguniverse.com/shop/page1.htm

Paul

tony roberts
October 17th 04, 06:38 AM
Hi Paul
If you want cheap, I can probably find you even cheaper,
but what you are referring to is definitely not a certified aviation
lifevest. (And from the picture it doesn't even look as though it would
float an unconscious person face-up). When you are in the water,
promises and guarantees mean zip - it's too late - can you imagine using
that vest and floating, facedown - unconscious?. You need a lifevest
that will do the job right now - 10 out of 10 times.
I teach survival courses, and this year I spent a full day on an
underwater egress course. You do need the right lifevest in an aircraft.
Here is some good reading for you -

http://www.equipped.org/avvests.htm

HTH

Tony
C-GICE




In article >,
"Paul Sengupta" > wrote:

> "tony roberts" > wrote in message
> news:nospam-3A0F13.21032115102004@shawnews...
> > I bought from Aircraft Spruce.
> > They sell repackaged and recertified vests for about $45.00 instead of
> > the usual $250.00.
>
> $250? Here in the UK you can get them for £24.67 + VAT new.
> (£28.99 if you're buying from within the EU)
>
> http://www.yachtinguniverse.com/shop/page1.htm
>
> Paul




--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Paul Sengupta
October 17th 04, 09:39 PM
Well, it's a certified yachting emergency life vest. They're the same ones
that sell in the aviation places for about £60-£80. :-) They are 150N vests,
the same as any other, manually inflatable. Some of the others have
additional features such as D-rings, harnesses designed to be winched by
a helicopter, etc, but inside they're basically the same.

There's a difference between the constant wear ones and the use once
ones. I've got a couple of ex-airline ones (out of date) that cost me $9
each. :-) Certified for aviation but a) they're out of date and b) they're
not suitable for putting round your neck each time you fly without wearing
out. The ones I mentioned come in a protective jacket so you can use
them (unactivated!) every time you fly over water.

Paul

"tony roberts" > wrote in message
news:nospam-9F360D.22415016102004@shawnews...
>
>
> Hi Paul
> If you want cheap, I can probably find you even cheaper,
> but what you are referring to is definitely not a certified aviation
> lifevest. (And from the picture it doesn't even look as though it would
> float an unconscious person face-up). When you are in the water,
> promises and guarantees mean zip - it's too late - can you imagine using
> that vest and floating, facedown - unconscious?. You need a lifevest
> that will do the job right now - 10 out of 10 times.
> I teach survival courses, and this year I spent a full day on an
> underwater egress course. You do need the right lifevest in an aircraft.
> Here is some good reading for you -
>
> http://www.equipped.org/avvests.htm
>
> HTH
>
> Tony
> C-GICE
>
>
>
>
> In article >,
> "Paul Sengupta" > wrote:
>
> > "tony roberts" > wrote in message
> > news:nospam-3A0F13.21032115102004@shawnews...
> > > I bought from Aircraft Spruce.
> > > They sell repackaged and recertified vests for about $45.00 instead of
> > > the usual $250.00.
> >
> > $250? Here in the UK you can get them for £24.67 + VAT new.
> > (£28.99 if you're buying from within the EU)
> >
> > http://www.yachtinguniverse.com/shop/page1.htm
> >
> > Paul
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Tony Roberts
> PP-ASEL
> VFR OTT
> Night
> Cessna 172H C-GICE

G.R. Patterson III
October 18th 04, 03:46 AM
tony roberts wrote:
>
> .... from the picture it doesn't even look as though it would
> float an unconscious person face-up.

From the picture, they don't appear to be inflated.

George Patterson
If a man gets into a fight 3,000 miles away from home, he *had* to have
been looking for it.

tony roberts
October 18th 04, 06:29 AM
> > .... from the picture it doesn't even look as though it would
> > float an unconscious person face-up.
>
> From the picture, they don't appear to be inflated.

Maybe they're just pictures!
Which of course are perfectly suitable for rescuing people involved in
pictures of a ditching :):):)
In Canada, where I live, we are not allowed to use boating life
preservers in aircraft that are beyond gliding distance of land -
we have to use certified life preservers for aircraft - and they are
REALLY expensive - and they have to be self inflating, and have to be
sealed in an air positive bag - so if it is breached we know before we
need it - and we have to keep them current!

Tony
--

Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Cessna 172H C-GICE

Paul Sengupta
October 18th 04, 11:23 AM
"tony roberts" > wrote in message
news:nospam-08DFB3.22331717102004@shawnews...
> > > .... from the picture it doesn't even look as though it would
> > > float an unconscious person face-up.
> >
> > From the picture, they don't appear to be inflated.
>
> Maybe they're just pictures!
> Which of course are perfectly suitable for rescuing people involved in
> pictures of a ditching :):):)
> In Canada, where I live, we are not allowed to use boating life
> preservers in aircraft that are beyond gliding distance of land -
> we have to use certified life preservers for aircraft - and they are
> REALLY expensive - and they have to be self inflating, and have to be
> sealed in an air positive bag - so if it is breached we know before we
> need it - and we have to keep them current!

Ah, we don't have to have them at all. Just one of those "nice things
to have" here in the UK. :-) I'm probably going to buy a couple of them
and maybe a life raft before I start doing serious over water flights.

I guess it's like anything else...put "CAA certified" on it and you can
at best double the price, at worst stick a zero on the end.

The last thing you want in a light aircraft is a self-inflating life vest,
especially if it's in a high wing plane.

Yes of course the actual life jacket is one of those inflatable things
which resides inside the collar that you see in the photo.

Here's a similar one sold for aviation purposes:
http://www.transair.co.uk/category.asp?SID=2&Category_ID=1028

Paul

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